I hope not. Or let it happen on its own. It locks gravel together and stays permeable. Then I need to study how it behaves, over years. I have a flagstone porch with flagstone stairs. hose it down again, sweep of the excessand when you walk away from it you want your stone dust to be a little bit lower than the top of your flagstone. Stone dust, for life. Sorry, I was out of town and away from my computer when you posted this question. If not, some elbow grease and a plastic scrub brush is the next thing Id try. I use approximately an inch or so of stone dust as the leveling agent. please reply with name of screening, where to buy and if method i am thinking is good. They took the quick easy way outand left large gaps to be filled with sand. Ill Probably go with your suggestion of screenings or DG. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Thats not a problem for stone dust, whereas poly sand, in a shifty situation, will crack up and be a problem. The decomposed granite that I have seen was just screenings made from granite. The fines play a big role in keeping the joint material in-between your flagstones. When using pea gravel for a hard surface patio or similar area, you need to use a binding solution. Thanks for your input and letting me pick your creative experienced brain! 1. We have an existing flagstone patio which was built on a layer of crushed limestone with the same in between the flagstones. But Ive seen em fail down south, and out south west, too. I would like to use something called a tumbled Colorado Red Stepper which is relatively small compared to other stones. No polymeric sand. Devin, You are absolutely the best source of info concerning flagstone installation. How can I create a smoother surface? Tamp the soila hand tamper that you buy at the hardware store will work just fine, a plate compactor will spare you the strain (rob you of a good work-out.Ill be honest, a very good work-out. My brother suggested sand? Great information. Tree limbs, leaves and mud can end up on the driveway. It consists of 3/4 gravel mixed with the same screenings that I was speaking of in the article. Compare. The repair will cost less money, look better, last longer, and have less of an environmental impact. Everyday of my life, theres someone asking me what to do about their 8 inch wide flagstone joints. If not, then Id grab my oxygen/acetylene torch. Please share any ideas. Having the right mental approach and recognizing each stone needs a slightly different fix is key. Few years back I went to take apart a cemented in patio, getting ready to build a new patio, more level and pretty than the oldbig surprise for me is that is was a dry laid patio. Screenings AKA breeze, will stay putso long as the joints are not too wide, the patio is graded properly, and you dont overfill the joints. Take your time planning.consider taking a workshop if theres one available in your area. When using a hand tamper on decomposed granite, it will stick to the bottom of the hand tamper in clumps. Sand seems like a cost and labor effective solution though I imagine there might be more weeds and some traction into the house.. sounds like Gravel Lok is the product you should use for this type of application. Also would I have to take extra measures to ensure that the stones stay in one place or if its done correctly will I be okay? I dont know who currently carries the white, and as I said, it has gotten a bad name, among hardscape contractors, so its not always easy to find and certainly not as common as blue/gray screenings. I am not wedded to those tumbled red steppers. There was a language barrier with the installers, they were from Brazil. Use a broom to fill gaps. Spread it liberally on top of the pea gravel then rake it in just under the surface. Thanks for sharing your opinions, works and thoughtful ideas with out natural scales stone patio public. I was wondering how best to address a potential problem as winter is approaching. Mix up some new polymeric sand, of matching type and colormix it up in a 5 gallon bucket, like you might mix up a small batch of mortar. Flagstones tend to be larger (2x3 or 3x3), mixed with some smaller units (1x1 or 1x3). Polymeric sand with Flagstone a bad idea. 3. Still, a leaf blower is your best tool for clearing pea gravel, since . b) take your time, read all the above articles, and educate yourself well enough to try your hand at a hard task or c) go ahead and live in a lame world where you dont need to fit your flagstones together rightyou can just fill the spaces in between with plastic! Doesnt sound too ingenious, when stated that way, doesnt it? Remove pea gravel and start over. This can trouble novices and pros alike. Personally, Id try it if I had some d-limonene lying around. The gaps range from 1/4 1 between stones. Placing a border around the perimeter of pea gravel paths and walkways is one of the best ways to stabilize pea gravel. Maybe a dry concrete mix without the rocks in it? Polymeric sand will crack, over time. But d-limonene does dissolve a few types of plastic, so I am thinking that d-limonene with a wire-brush just might do the trick. *also note that i do indeed also use a 4.5 grinder and/or a 14 saw, in order to achieve a tight-fit patio. I hope that helps. I have patio pavers with gravel between pavers instead of polymeric sand. Desperately need advice for how to improve curb appeal. If it means re-grading a bit of yard, or installing a step. Should I just wait until it dries out? Just hose the patio down real well. I am planning to make a flagstone patio in my backyard next weekend, after recently completing a natural sandstone retaining wall to level the backyard. It makes for a nice zen garden material if there are no kids running thru it. Yea, hardened into something spongeythats a polymeric sand type material. Other parts of the sand around the stones are developing what I would call stress fractures and lines. Hi helpful article- thank you. Having decades of experience, I can make this type of material workby fitting them tight, malleting them into their bedding material, maybe using some of the smaller ones uprightor not at all, and other tricks Ive picked up over the yearsbut still at the end of the day, a dry laid patio built with this sort of material will probably not be 100% wobble free at job completion. Very glad I could help One stone at a time, no plastic needed. One last question on screenings is this something Home Depot carries? In fact, Ive seen many hardscapes home owner installations, where natural dirt, I mean local soil, was used for the foundation. Best of luck! I recommend washing out the rest of the sand. The rest are med to med-small with a few fillers. I cant find any advice on-line about how to apply the stone dust. https://highlandls.com/product/3-8-crushed-basalt/. I know it hasnt been that long since the quarry dust was placed between the stones and according to what I have read in your comments, the stone/dust will settle down. If there are a lot of weeds present, you may want to add a barrier of landscape fabric between the base rock and the pea gravel. I keep telling people, if you put your flagstone on sand, then what youre doing is inviting ants unto your patio! Or can I fill all of the stones with top soil? Then gently give it a few taps with a mallet to seat it into place. I like this idea but they are quite an expensive solution to fix this $32 load of gravel 2. On the note of odor, there are products you can hook up to your hose pipe to breakdown dog waste and odors. It does not get dug out by ants, weeds cant grow through it and it does not wash out. I'm not about breakingand rules here, but if it's a solution to manylandscape problems, win/win. 3. A professional, who will talk with you on the phone, and walk you through the process of laying flagstone, repairing flagstone, or any other such situation? Polymeric sand is indeed pretty good on these fronts.for the first year or 3. I read your article, thanks. For more information, please see our Anywhere that sells gravel/sand/mulch, usually. Question: contractors want to use polymeric filler or some combo of filler. It works well. that is the stone dust that you refer to, pea gravel or something else as a filler in cracks that wide? Might be able to spread it around and then water it with a sprinkler to activate its stickiness. Sounds like a winner, right? Spread it all over and hosed it down into cracks. thanks, Chris (Santa Cruz Ca). Quick question: in cases where the polymeric sand has left a white haze on the slate as you mentioned, what is the best way to remove the haze? https://images.homedepot-static.com/productImages/8f8e41ef-21f0-4fba-beda-fcb652335ff0/svn/quikrete-masonry-mortar-mix-a003a-64_1000.jpg. I dont want to discourage you, and I totally think you can do this. Polymers for Sand, Gravel, Aggregate and Concrete Processing - thickeners, sand processing, dredging, dewatering, clarification , dry processes. Thanks for saving me from the poly sand! I used screenings to fill in between the joints. Have you seen this used with travertine tile in an outdoor pool deck in Florida? Fact is, if natracil wanted some publicity.theyd send me a free sample. In cases of larger gaps like that, Ive had good experiences using: -larger 1-2 river rock. In bucks county you can get red screeningsblooming glen quarry, outside of Quakertown. 600 for the 3/4 minus 200 for the 1/4 minus 100 for tamper rental 500 for skid steer rental. Also, I just placed about 4 of them to see how it might work. I was excited by the product at first.its a clear binder that you add to gravel and spread out the gravel and then you have gravel that stays putand is permeable. We probably have a dozen small ant hills to show as proof- lol. I just used stone dust (screenings) as a leveler and in between stones. Should I seal the granite? This is coming from a guy who originally jumped on the poly sands some fifteen years ago. So far we have tried aggressive scrubbing test areas with soap and water, aggressive scrubbing with a 50/50 bleach mixture, and also with a powerful house siding cleaning mixtureall with no luck, the same haze remains. I was thinking about trying a 4' wide path going back to the horse barn. these fines, when dampened, actually do bind up with the larger chips, becoming semi-solid. Then theres the flagstone work we did around this pond.so loose, I cant even call it a patio: https://www.devineescapes.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/pond-water-feature.jpg. The stone settles, the joint cracks. I just have to tell you . We are getting ready to install a flagstone patio a step down from our front porch. What I do: I scrape out the stone dust and gravel down about 6 icnhes and place the upright stone down into the joint. Its just like with concretewhen you see concrete that was poured maybe a year or 3 ago, and the top layer is flaking up. Come join the discussion about performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! But when you want your walkways to stay in place, the round and easily moveable shape of pea gravel could be a problem. The tile company probably makes a rubber underlayment that youll want to lay on top of the 1/4 minus. Do not use polymeric sand with flagstone. Kristi. What is the best way to get the cracks between the flagstones sealed? Use a roller to compact the gravel, which also helps with stability. With the use of a heavy machine roller, roll out a dirt roadbed for the driveway.Next, install a thick layer of medium crush gravel into it. We have large four inch thick, Colonial stone laid on a dry base, like a stepping stone path. Im so glad I found your webpage. But it should work well enough, yes. Im thinking you could take a concrete saw and just run one cut down the middle of the trench. We live in Washington, DC. Yes, the material I saw at the quarry very close to my house was just the very fine dust. Get complete site access to expert advice, how-to videos, Code Check, and more, plus the print magazine. Thank you and good luck . Naturally it failed. I am considering taking the sand out, re-leveling, and filling the joints with screening instead. Just did a repair where the sand in-between and under the flagstones was undermined by and taken over by ants. Thanks again! Gravel is much less vulnerable to damage from seasonal . It is just what I was after and while the pea gravel has the "look" it does not have the stability. Most of my jobs are in Pennsylvania. I wonder if mixing the top layer of pebbles with stone dust might not stabilize your pea gravel somewhat, kind of like crusher run?. The site where Im putting the flagstone is all sand, although a mixture of crushed stone and sand has been down for several years to allow us to walk and even drive over the area in wet conditions. Anyway, I suspect white screenings are going to be too white for what youre trying to match. Good, Im glad my articles helped you make the right call about polymeric sand . After 4 months, it starts to have wavy driveway. Boil a pot of water, to kill weeds. Love the info. -moss. I realize it would be better to remove everything but Im not up to doing that. Finally, polymeric sand is an acrylic product. Do you use cold chisels or is a hammer enough? No freeze-thaw issues. Joints are all tight at and average of about 1/2 to 3/4 inch in width. That depends. Please and thank you, Freddi. Didnt like the sound of the poly sand. I want to use decomposed granite or a similar natural product, other than sand, that is tan in color instead of grey. Once all the stones are laid, sweep more screenings into the joints. For example, something like this: https://www.glengery.com/mortar or maybe something from Sika? We are in Ontario, Canada. Quarries will sell it by the ton or by the yard, but a masonry supply place will usually let you fill a five-gallon bucket. The joints are being filled with stone dust or screening as you call it. Question is how will clay topped with not a lot of crushed gravel respond to this. Now about weedswhat can I say? I also have a pea gravel area (about 20X20') that I want to stabilize. Even if you are using a more uniform paver, the gravel foundation may not compact 100 percent perfectly. Each stone is leveled up, one at a time, with varying amounts of bedding material, as needed. I had thought pea gravel would look great, but I was scared off by the instability issue. The patio comes off the basement door and is surround on three sides by 4-5 retaining walls, and had a 4 drain in the pave patioit was sinking especially around the drain. I do not recommend paver setits basically polymeric sand, and I do not like polymeric sand with flagstone. Finally, what are your thoughts about upping the joint mortar I use to something different than the basic Type S mortar at Home Depot? You cant really hide the edge thoughso dont bother trying to hide it, but go with an edge that you like the look of. Do you recommend a sealer be applied at all? It was wet out today and all the beautiful color of the flagstone was showing nicely where I have not used poly sand on the joints; but in the areas where I used poly sand it all has a dull haze and the natural colors just dont come through. My husband and I were considering using the polymeric sand in our new flagstone patio but my gut was telling me to go with the natural product. Send photos and info to devin@devineescapes.com. They are basically pebbles that have both aesthetic and functional uses. 2023 The Taunton Press, Inc. All rights reserved. But on a dirt foundation, to set flagstones in a bed of cement based mortar, just doesnt make sense, for use with flagstone. Yea, buy a few brick, cut them, do it right. For urine & feces odor control I spray the kennels occasionally with yard odor killer, which works great.I don't use cement because it is damaging to the dogs pads.To address my problem:I have a long driveway made with reject ab. Installing loose pea gravel is relatively simple compared to other hardscaping materials. Life happens. Ohyoure saying the flagstone patio is dry laid and is adjacent to the mortared step and walkway. does polymeric come in colors? Concrete is your best bet. Natural flagstone, concrete paver and ceramic brick patios and walkways are set upon gravel foundations, their joints then need to be filled. This stuff is the type of stuff Im talking about. You basically pour the product over existing gravel surfaces and let it dry to keep gravel in place. Anything with d-limonene. Last year, I installed the landscape fieldstone for a courtyard but after an injury, had to stop before completing. Many thanks! Do you have any comments on how to best drain this so it doesnt continue to settle after i install the flagstones? Also do you use stone enhancer to intensify the color of the flag stone? Still, this stuff is what you are asking me for. In this he mixes 1 part water, 2 parts cement and 7 parts peagravel, (or was that 2 water 1 cement.) I have been looking all over- there is polymer sand, polymer binging agents, etc., but what would work best for a long path? https://www.envirobond.com/professional/envirosand/, https://www.landscapeandgarden.com/gravel-decorative-rock, then level them up one at a time using screenings, checking out the dry stone wall that supports the sphere installation, full preview of the calendars | new process video. Now in the above drawing, on the left is 3/4 to 1 clean gravel. 2) level out the stones, one at a time, using the crushed stone to raise them up, as needed. Also, it gives a patio a good appearance, to have all larger stones along the edge. I sent him your article about using quarry dust. Natural dirt could mean any combinations of these soil types. Not a good look. Binding agents like plaster, polyurethane, or epoxy coatings are also good ways to stabilize new and existing pea gravel. Orange oil. This year we had the finances to redo it (had our concrete co. remove it) with Connecticut Bluestone slate. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. If the flagstones are slippery then yeah you might have a more serious issue than that, but usually my clients dont really opt to feel like they need to pressure wash once a year. I re-rake the kennels every few days to keep the coverage even. Hello, and thanks for taking the time to answer our questions. My customer wanted no transition between the pool and the patio..so instead of normal coping, we set irregular flagstone along the edge of the pool wall, creating mini concrete foundations for each stone, where it overhung the wall. also can i just use decomposed granite to level and build the basketball court? I presume stone dust is finer than crushed granite, yes? Or, just fill the gap with road base gravel. I have travertine pavers going down on a dry set base. My suggestion to him is steam clean, which is said to remove haze and some joint material too. Hope that helps and I wish you good luck! But screenings are only used in dry laid application. Sand was also used in between bricks as 1/8 gap fill. 22 Reviews. All that space that was filled with water is now air, so its a weak concrete. Clay subsoil can compact and sometimes stay fairly stablebut usually, it will settle and heave over the years, sometimes leaving you a fairly level patio, just with a bit of character. What did I do wrong? On the other hand, if you are using gravel on a patio, it is best if the pea gravel is completely immovable. I dont know if it would do any harm though, but it might. )and get as many of them clean as possible, knowing that a few of them you may have to replace, a few maybe get turned upside down and re-puzzled in to the project, maybe leave one stone still with the haze, as part of the patio forever, to always remind you of this fun adventure. good luck and let me know how it goesmaybe you can teach me something on the subject , Hi Devin, your blog on polymeric sand was very helpful. Its an 8 long stone, so now its sitting 2 high. Great work, youve inspired another. When you re-lay you need to fit them bricks tighter. or mortar, in your case. But, you came to me with a need and Id rather give you a complete answer. Get home building tips, offers, and expert advice in your inbox. Thanks, JoAn. Ive never known a patio to be be pressure washed more often then maybe once a decade or soMost home owners never once pressure wash their flagstones, so it is usually a non-issue. and our Otherwise, I am forced to walk on hard edged screenings! So..what good shall it do me, if this unfortunately rigid and stable joint is natural, not synthetic? Clay base, with about 4 of 1/4 clear gravel, followed by 1 of screening before putting down 20 X 20 patio slabs with next to nothing for gaps. *its a plant fiber. In your case, decomposed granite joints. Just make sure to do the project at a time inwhich the weather is not expected to get below freezing for a good 48 hours or longer. If the paver base is made up of 1/8 chips of stone, mixed up with smaller bits, much of which is so small that it is flour-like, then, well, its the right stuff. The first thing I want to do is find a way to make it less sloped. Theres household cleaners out there, they sell them at the big box stores, probably grocery stores too maybe idk, but its a citrus extract and you have to be careful when cleaning with it because it dissolves some types of plastic. it will likely stay glued to itself.but the bricks or stone that it is set amongstthese will not be clean surfaces. It just doe not look right, does not at all have the look and feel of real gravel. Hi I have dog kennel for my dog and I was wondering .Should I use pea gravel or cement I wont something easy to clean. How old is your patio? Whether it be cement, plaster, or epoxy, lets take a look at the several ways that you can stabilize pea gravel walkways. I never recommend sealing flagstone. On the right hand side is modified gravel, or d.o.t road base. Hi Devin. Others, with a concrete border. https://www.devineescapes.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/zzz.jpg. pressure washing will definitely break screenings/decomposed granite loose from the joints. So fun, so tiring!). He hosed and tamped the joints a couple of times, and Ive hosed them a couple more times since. How much does polymeric sand cost? Id never considered using steel slag for use with flagstone. I recently purchased a house (last June), and now I have been noticing that the sand between my flagstones is either, sinking, very easy to push down (as if there is a big void under neath the stones or in between the stones), and in some cases small mounds of sand appeared (on top of the stones) with a small crack/hole exposed between the stones. The next step is to install the base. My guess is that this is a type of decomposed granite or screenings? Truthfully our joints are a bit wider than you suggest. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Come to think of it, one of the private residences in Colonial Williamsburg has a stabilized pea gravel front walk. To keep pea gravel from rolling and shifting, tamp it down with a heavy lawn roller or hand tamper after you install it. First of all, thanks for the fast response. So glad I found your blog, almost as much as finding a buried 1220 flagstone patio in our backyard! Metal is more durable, but no matter what border you choose, it should be at least 1/2 inch above the ground outside the perimeter. Be sure to hose off and dont let muriatic acid sit long, as it can deteriorate the joint materialmuriatic acid eats cement. Thank you Devin! I live in Texas with the soil is mixed clay and moves a lot. Dig, then tamp, then lay roadbase gravel (3/4 minus). As such, my recommendation is clearstay with the decomposed granite! I believe there are different kinds of sand and one of them might work. Its just too big. What if I use the yogurt method etc? It is an excellent material for leveling out your flagstonesthe best in my opinion, and likewise it is the best joint filler for flagstones. Have you seen this water proofing used before to settle the quarry dust? Stevation, I like the look of your path. Dear Devin, Great thread. We dug eight inches deep, used broken concrete chunks, and then filled the voids with #411 limestone gravel, (1 1/2 inches to fines), and then #10 limestone screening on top. and then we would lay down the stone and grout the joints with the gravel. This can make the stone slippery and change its appearancewithout providing any benefit. Some pieces are 2 thick x 12 long by 4 widesome are 3/4 to 1 thick 1010 size, with only a handful ideal size pieces to keep it anchored together, i suppose. Woo-hoo, no need to remove a concrete foundation! Can I buy just the acrylic binder that I can use to make a polysand to pack areas most prone to erosion, like the fronts of the stair sections or areas that get hit most with rain wash? | Paver Base Panel vs. Gravel For Patio Base | Patio Ideas On A Budget. I want to use it in a few places and if it had a light blue blume, that would work, too. btw, the photo you emailed me looks GREAT. It compacts well up to a 5 or 6 inch thickness , anything more than that and it has enough mass for a downward load to sift the particles . Id really have to see what you are working with, what the flagstone looks likeand then it would be a matter of looking into what is available in your area. Tamp the base rock until it does not move, as this supports the pea gravel. Also, I lived in the Poconos for more than 20 years and at one time not far from your town. Thanks! It did say that clean up was with ammonia, so isit stray cat proof? see if it works. Purchase screenings at a landscape supply store or at a quarry. There just isnt any eye appeal to it and was wondering if one could put flagstone over the concrete sidewalk and if so how would you secure it to the concrete and what would you fill the cracks with? Organic materials will not compact enough to support vehicle traffic. Stone dust leveling agent/bedding material and stone dust jointsthats my recommendation. The manufacturer recommends clean gaps of just polymeric sand. Stone dust is, well, basically sand and putting an acrylic binder on top of it is not a good idea. I filled each joint half full and then ran a light plate compactor (with rubber protector matt between the plate and the stone this vibrated the sand down into all the voids at the bottom of each joint) then I came back through with the grout bag and filled the joint to the approximately 1/8th of an inch below the top surface of the flagstone. Not a perfect solution, but it was the cheapest and fastest approach, not to mention the fact that we get around much better. Yes I have run experiments oin differenat areas of the patio and have used different amts of water with the same results. But heres the problem: polymeric sand fails.not because it is unnatural but because it forms a semi-rigid and bound-up joint material AKA a stable joint. So good job. The house is in Los Angeles, California. "I have learned so much thanks to the searchable articles on the FHB website. And that is your preference? Secondly, never been afraid of a little work!! The joint however stays put.now you have a hollow void, either underneath the stone, or just beneath the joint. Take your time and get out what you can. I have been thinking of taking the pressure washer and blasting out all the soil, and replacing it with screening i think it will look better, and am hoping it will stay clean longer. This is a torch that is used to weld and cut steela blow torch. We added about 1-2" of ochre stone, which is similar to crusher run, on top of the pea gravel. Spot on! One web site even suggests a 1/3 dry portland cement/breeze mix, to then be gently soaked with water that would harden up. 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